Airtable CEO Howie Liu has been building the future of software for over a decade. From selling his first startup to Salesforce at 21 to pioneering the no-code movement, he's consistently been ahead of the curve on how technology can democratize software creation.

In this conversation, we explore how the no-code movement has evolved and what the future of SaaS looks like in the age of AI. Howie shares the untold story of Microsoft's decision to prioritize Excel over Access, reveals Airtable's sophisticated AI model routing system, and explains why the recent wave of massive acqui-hires actually makes economic sense. Most importantly, he makes the case for why leaders need to remain hands-on technical experts rather than pure managers in an age of rapid technological change.

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